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Black Ember Forge 30 vs Grams28 150 Daypack

The Black Ember Forge 30 is 20L and 1.8kg4lb; the Grams28 150 Daypack is 16.6L and 1.84kg4.1lb. The Black Ember Forge 30 is 0.04kg0.1lb lighter. The Black Ember Forge 30 costs $374 less. The Black Ember Forge 30 fits the carry-on limit of 36 of 36 major airlines and the Grams28 150 Daypack fits 36; under the seat, 1 and 9 of 26.

SpecBlack Ember Forge 30Grams28 150 Daypack
Price$325Best$699
Volume20L16.6L
Expands to30Ln/a
Weight1.8kg4lbBest1.84kg4.1lb
Carry-on compliance100%100%
Personal-item compliance4%35%Best
Dimensions46×31×20cm18×12×8in41.5×28.5×14cm16.5×11×5.5in
Laptop16"16"
Openingexternal fast access panel, separate laptop and tablet compartment, expansion zipfoldover flap main compartment, quick access front pocket
WarrantyLifetimeLifetime
OrganizerYesYes
Shoe compartmentNoNo
Hydration sleeveNoNo
Frame sheetNoNo
Water-resistantYesNo
Rain coverNoNo
MOLLENoNo
Hip beltNoNo
Sternum strapRemovableNo
Load liftersYesNo
Shoulder strapInsert sold separatelyNo
Luggage pass-throughYesYes
Camera compartmentNoNo
MaterialEmberTex PFAS-free 1220x600D nylon 6 with bonded laser-cut Hypalon panels, 210D ripstop nylon lining, YKK Aquaguard zippers, T6 anodized aluminum hardwareItalian pebbled bovine leather from Gruppo Mastrotto, environment certified tanning
Last checked2026-102026-10

Where their airline fit differs

AirlineLimitBlack Ember Forge 30Grams28 150 Daypack
Air CanadaPersonal itemToo bigFits
Allegiant AirPersonal itemToo bigFits
American AirlinesPersonal itemToo bigFits
British AirwaysPersonal itemToo bigFits
easyJetPersonal itemToo bigFits
JetBlue AirwaysPersonal itemToo bigFits
LATAM AirlinesPersonal itemToo bigFits
VolarisPersonal itemToo bigFits

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